On-sky time by filter

I have been looking for a rough number for the time spent in on-sky observations by each of the ugrizy filters. I had a look at the simulation “baseline_v4.0_10yrs.db” but found only 100 rows in the file with half of them being on the r filter and half on the g filter. It took a long time to download the db file, so I was not expecting it to be so small. I noticed that there was a place to enter a password and thought that maybe I did not have access to the full db file. I’m not looking for a precise number which I suspect will change over time, but at least an order of magnitude for the average.

Hi @sdcorle1, thank you for your post. As a clarification, would you mind indicating where you obtained that file and where a password was requested?

In addition, are you asking for the planned exposure time per filter per exposure, or for the total aggregated time per filter at the end of the 10-year survey?

Thank you!

Andres,

  1. I got the sim from https://s3df.slac.stanford.edu/data/rubin/sim-data/sims_featureScheduler_runs4.0/baseline/baseline_v4.0_10yrs.db. I displayed it using Visual Table, which may be the answer to the password prompt. I was able to see the 100 rows in the table without entering a password, so maybe that is just a part of the Visual Table application.
  2. I’m not looking for specific planning information, so the aggregated time per filter would be great.

Thanks,
Suber

Hi Suber,
We have lots of plots and stats for all survey simulations at: https://usdf-maf.slac.stanford.edu/
To answer your specific question, the median number of visits for a point inside the survey area in ugrizy goes 52, 63, 168, 170, 152, 151 respectively. Those are for 2x15 second snaps in grizy, and 1x39 second in u.

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FWIW, it’s likely that Visual Table was the source for the password prompt (there shouldn’t have been anything on the USDF download).
Occasionally downloading from USDF does seem to take exceedingly long; at other times, it’s much quicker. We haven’t been able to determine the source of the problem, although we’ve asked USDF IT support about it.
There ought to be on the order of 2M row in the “observations” table of that database file however, so either Visual Table truncated it for you or the download was corrupted somehow.

Peter’s link to https://usdf-maf.slac.stanford.edu does have quite a few plots that may be relevant to some of your recent questions, and I also know there is quite a lot of content there so it can be easy to miss, so i’ll highlight a couple of particular metrics (from the v4.0 simulation):

Given some previous questions you’ve asked in the forum, I am wondering if more information about the framework that we use to produce those plots above would be helpful? It’s an extensible tool called MAF that is intended to allow users to more easily write new metrics to evaluate how their science area might be represented with Rubin survey data – the user only has to write the metric evaluating “provided the visits and information about those visits that overlap a given point on the sky, what would I find?”, while the framework takes care of determining what visits would overlap that particular point and delivering the information about those visits such as airmass, depth, seeing, filter, etc. More documentation on MAF is available in the rubin-sim.lsst.io MAF module docs online.

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Peter @yoachim , Lynne @ljones , thanks very much for this information and for your analysis of the likely reasons for my results.

@ljones @yoachim I have attached my console log as I have attempted to load Rubin_sim onto my Mac M1. I have been through the Installation and Data Download instructions many times this week-end and I end up at the same place each time. For this most recent run, I downloaded and reloaded miniconda from scratch.

The penultimate line in the console log is : ModuleNotFoundError: No module named ‘rubin_scheduler’

This is where I have always ended up. Rubin_sim is in my base directory along with the “data” sub-folder which contains rs_download_data but there is no trace anywhere of “rubin_scheduler”. I have chatted with ChatGPT over the issue and followed several suggestions, but the end-results have not changed so far.

I know that it is not your job to hold my hand on this, but I’m hoping that you might have run across this issue before.

Thanks, in any case.

Suber

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(base) iMac:~ subercorley$ git clone git@github.com:lsst/rubin_sim.git
fatal: destination path ‘rubin_sim’ already exists and is not an empty directory.
(base) iMac:~ subercorley$ cd rubin_sim
(base) iMac:rubin_sim subercorley$ conda create --channel conda-forge --name rubin-sim --file requirements.txt python=3.11
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python-tzdata-2025.1       |     pyhd8ed1ab_0         140 KB  conda-forge
python_abi-3.11            |          5_cp311           6 KB  conda-forge
pytz-2024.1                |     pyhd8ed1ab_0         184 KB  conda-forge
pyyaml-6.0.2               |  py311h4921393_2         192 KB  conda-forge
pyzmq-26.2.1               |  py311h01f2145_0         361 KB  conda-forge
qhull-2020.2               |       h420ef59_5         504 KB  conda-forge
re2-2024.07.02             |       h6589ca4_2          26 KB  conda-forge
readline-8.2               |       h92ec313_1         244 KB  conda-forge
reproc-14.2.5.post0        |       h5505292_0          31 KB  conda-forge
reproc-cpp-14.2.5.post0    |       h286801f_0          24 KB  conda-forge
requests-2.32.3            |     pyhd8ed1ab_1          57 KB  conda-forge
ruamel.yaml-0.18.10        |  py311h917b07b_0         267 KB  conda-forge
ruamel.yaml.clib-0.2.8     |  py311hae2e1ce_1         114 KB  conda-forge
rubin-scheduler-3.4.0      |     pyhd8ed1ab_1         277 KB  conda-forge
s3fs-2025.2.0              |     pyhd8ed1ab_0          32 KB  conda-forge
scikit-learn-1.6.1         |  py311h47fa2fb_0         9.5 MB  conda-forge
scipy-1.15.1               |  py311h809cfb5_0        15.5 MB  conda-forge
setuptools-75.8.0          |     pyhff2d567_0         757 KB  conda-forge
setuptools-scm-7.1.0       |     pyhd8ed1ab_0          38 KB  conda-forge
setuptools_scm-7.1.0       |       hd8ed1ab_0           6 KB  conda-forge
setuptools_scm_git_archive-1.4.1|     pyhd8ed1ab_1           9 KB  conda-forge
sgp4-2.22                  |  py311hddbb800_0         189 KB  conda-forge
shapely-2.0.7              |  py311h50ea49b_0         537 KB  conda-forge
simdjson-3.11.6            |       ha393de7_0         202 KB  conda-forge
six-1.17.0                 |     pyhd8ed1ab_0          16 KB  conda-forge
skyfield-1.49              |     pyhff2d567_0         289 KB  conda-forge
skyproj-2.0.0              |     pyh2cfa8aa_0         3.2 MB  conda-forge
smmap-5.0.0                |     pyhd8ed1ab_0          22 KB  conda-forge
snappy-1.2.1               |       h98b9ce2_1          35 KB  conda-forge
sortedcontainers-2.4.0     |     pyhd8ed1ab_1          28 KB  conda-forge
soupsieve-2.5              |     pyhd8ed1ab_1          36 KB  conda-forge
spdlog-1.15.1              |       hed1c2b2_0         159 KB  conda-forge
sqlalchemy-2.0.38          |  py311h917b07b_0         3.4 MB  conda-forge
sqlite-3.48.0              |       hd7222ec_1         838 KB  conda-forge
stack_data-0.6.3           |     pyhd8ed1ab_1          26 KB  conda-forge
threadpoolctl-3.5.0        |     pyhc1e730c_0          23 KB  conda-forge
tk-8.6.13                  |       h5083fa2_1         3.0 MB  conda-forge
tomli-2.2.1                |     pyhd8ed1ab_1          19 KB  conda-forge
toolz-1.0.0                |     pyhd8ed1ab_1          51 KB  conda-forge
tornado-6.4.2              |  py311h917b07b_0         839 KB  conda-forge
tqdm-4.67.1                |     pyhd8ed1ab_1          87 KB  conda-forge
traitlets-5.14.3           |     pyhd8ed1ab_1         107 KB  conda-forge
traittypes-0.2.1           |     pyh9f0ad1d_2          10 KB  conda-forge
truststore-0.10.1          |     pyh29332c3_0          23 KB  conda-forge
typing-extensions-4.12.2   |       hd8ed1ab_1          10 KB  conda-forge
typing_extensions-4.12.2   |     pyha770c72_1          39 KB  conda-forge
tzdata-2025a               |       h78e105d_0         120 KB  conda-forge
unicodedata2-16.0.0        |  py311h917b07b_0         402 KB  conda-forge
urllib3-2.3.0              |     pyhd8ed1ab_0          98 KB  conda-forge
wcwidth-0.2.13             |     pyhd8ed1ab_1          32 KB  conda-forge
webencodings-0.5.1         |     pyhd8ed1ab_3          15 KB  conda-forge
wheel-0.45.1               |     pyhd8ed1ab_1          61 KB  conda-forge
widgetsnbextension-4.0.13  |     pyhd8ed1ab_1         877 KB  conda-forge
wrapt-1.17.2               |  py311h917b07b_0          61 KB  conda-forge
xorg-libxau-1.0.12         |       h5505292_0          13 KB  conda-forge
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yaml-0.2.5                 |       h3422bc3_2          86 KB  conda-forge
yaml-cpp-0.8.0             |       h13dd4ca_0         127 KB  conda-forge
yarl-1.18.3                |  py311h4921393_1         142 KB  conda-forge
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zipp-3.21.0                |     pyhd8ed1ab_1          21 KB  conda-forge
zlib-1.3.1                 |       h8359307_2          76 KB  conda-forge
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zstd-1.5.6                 |       hb46c0d2_0         396 KB  conda-forge
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                                       Total:       241.6 MB

The following NEW packages will be INSTALLED:

aiobotocore conda-forge/noarch::aiobotocore-2.19.0-pyhd8ed1ab_1
aiohappyeyeballs conda-forge/noarch::aiohappyeyeballs-2.4.4-pyhd8ed1ab_1
aiohttp conda-forge/osx-arm64::aiohttp-3.11.12-py311h4921393_0
aioitertools conda-forge/noarch::aioitertools-0.12.0-pyhd8ed1ab_1
aiosignal conda-forge/noarch::aiosignal-1.3.2-pyhd8ed1ab_0
appnope conda-forge/noarch::appnope-0.1.4-pyhd8ed1ab_1
archspec conda-forge/noarch::archspec-0.2.5-pyhd8ed1ab_0
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astropy-base conda-forge/osx-arm64::astropy-base-7.0.1-py311h5e5ef3f_0
astropy-iers-data conda-forge/noarch::astropy-iers-data-0.2025.2.3.0.32.42-pyhd8ed1ab_0
asttokens conda-forge/noarch::asttokens-3.0.0-pyhd8ed1ab_1
attrs conda-forge/noarch::attrs-25.1.0-pyh71513ae_0
aws-c-auth conda-forge/osx-arm64::aws-c-auth-0.8.1-hfc2798a_0
aws-c-cal conda-forge/osx-arm64::aws-c-cal-0.8.1-hc8a0bd2_3
aws-c-common conda-forge/osx-arm64::aws-c-common-0.10.6-h5505292_0
aws-c-compression conda-forge/osx-arm64::aws-c-compression-0.3.0-hc8a0bd2_5
aws-c-event-stream conda-forge/osx-arm64::aws-c-event-stream-0.5.0-h54f970a_11
aws-c-http conda-forge/osx-arm64::aws-c-http-0.9.2-h96aa502_4
aws-c-io conda-forge/osx-arm64::aws-c-io-0.15.3-haba67d1_6
aws-c-mqtt conda-forge/osx-arm64::aws-c-mqtt-0.11.0-h24f418c_12
aws-c-s3 conda-forge/osx-arm64::aws-c-s3-0.7.9-hf37e03c_1
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azure-core-cpp conda-forge/osx-arm64::azure-core-cpp-1.14.0-hd50102c_0
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zstd conda-forge/osx-arm64::zstd-1.5.6-hb46c0d2_0

Proceed ([y]/n)? y

Downloading and Extracting Packages:

Preparing transaction: done
Verifying transaction: done
Executing transaction: done

To activate this environment, use

$ conda activate rubin-sim

To deactivate an active environment, use

$ conda deactivate

(base) iMac:rubin_sim subercorley$ pip install -e . --no-deps
Obtaining file:///Users/subercorley/rubin_sim
Installing build dependencies … done
Checking if build backend supports build_editable … done
Getting requirements to build editable … done
Preparing editable metadata (pyproject.toml) … done
Building wheels for collected packages: rubin-sim
Building editable for rubin-sim (pyproject.toml) … done
Created wheel for rubin-sim: filename=rubin_sim-2.2.1-0.editable-py3-none-any.whl size=17220 sha256=23053e29a177f942ef0ce3d37efb7aa508ef8758ff19467aef6c3f850ee73377
Stored in directory: /private/var/folders/9h/5lgfqp251l77mtmnc156qlf00000gn/T/pip-ephem-wheel-cache-okx3m2_9/wheels/53/da/c2/dac4382df06fa128bd3d3f17a873d7764e8f09dae3446cf4fa
Successfully built rubin-sim
Installing collected packages: rubin-sim
Successfully installed rubin-sim-2.2.1
(base) iMac:rubin_sim subercorley$ scheduler_download_data
-bash: scheduler_download_data: command not found
(base) iMac:rubin_sim subercorley$ rs_download_data
Traceback (most recent call last):
File “/Users/subercorley/miniconda3/bin/rs_download_data”, line 5, in
from rubin_sim.data.rs_download_data import rs_download_data
File “/Users/subercorley/rubin_sim/rubin_sim/data/init.py”, line 1, in
from .rs_download_data import * # noqa: F403
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File “/Users/subercorley/rubin_sim/rubin_sim/data/rs_download_data.py”, line 7, in
from rubin_scheduler.data import DEFAULT_DATA_URL, download_rubin_data
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named ‘rubin_scheduler’
(base) iMac:rubin_sim subercorley$

You created a new conda environment called rubin_sim and installed the requirements, but then failed to activate the environment with conda activate rubin-sim (or we have poorly worded instructions, so you ended up deactivating the env when you shouldn’t have).

Peter, Thanks for the quick response. The instruction that I mis-interpreted was this “If you want to run tests (please do), install the test requirements as well:” I took the “if” to mean that the execution of those two lines of commands was optional. I had executed them the very first time that I attempted the installation, but, of course, that was many attempts before I realized that my conda was corrupted. I re-started and followed all of the steps in the installation and my system is now happily downloading a lot of sim data. I’m anxious to get into it. Thanks to you and Lynne again for everything .

I see – the spacing of that part of the installation instructions is poor.
The “conda activate” line should indeed be in the cell preceding the instructions to install the test requirements.

To use conda environments (or install additional packages into a particular environment), you always do need to activate the environment for each new shell. However, creating a channel and then failing to activate it prior to running pip to install additional packages … is something I have done many times. It’s a super-easy failure mode.